Dancing Is Outlawed in Va. Town

[jefflucas]

On 4/13/01 6:47:39 PM, Jonina Dourif wrote:

<p>

>Do some of the Bushites want<br>

>to explain how this cowboy<br>

>made all that money????<br><br>


<b>
It's "<A target="new" HREF="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/04/20010413-5.html">Cheney</a>."<br>

Are you implying that he has done something improper or are you just jealous that he earned that amount or can't you fathom that someone who (god forbid) doesn't live in Beverly Hills (*a "cowboy"*) is able to earn that kind of money? ;-<font color="red">)</font><p>
The Cheneys gave away $7,800,000 to charity and paid $14,295,058 in taxes.
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I'm glad someone with the ability to earn and manage that kind of money ended up in the executive branch. Is it bad for a politician to have actual experience earning money and creating jobs and working in the private sector, as opposed to living off of the public dole for his entire life and defining compassion as 'forcibly taking income from one person who earned it and giving it to another' (e.g. Al Gore)?

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Oh and just to remind you..you.. you Joniferous-MidMammalWoman - BUSH won the election! hehehe

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Jeff

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[dane]

Holy shit Jeff. A little outspoken are we? <br>
I'm sure the "mid-mammal woman" won't be able <br>
to resist responding. Hehehe. <br>
<br>
None-the-less...your point is well spoken. <br>
Hopefully this guy really did make all his <br>
dough in something other than sweetheart <br>
deals via military/arms related industry. If <br>
so good for him...and his family. Of course <br>
the mid-mammal woman assumes not, and will be <br>
going nuts on us all and my prediction is <br>
this thread will take up way more bandwidth <br>
than it deserves.<br>

[Pele]

<i>On 4/13/01 9:13:40 PM, Jeff Lucas wrote:<br>can't you fathom that someone who (god forbid) doesn't live in Beverly Hills(*a "cowboy"*) is able to earn that kind<br>
of money? ;-)</i><br>
<p><br>
<b>No need to feel inferior just because you live in Texas<br>
and I bet I can ride and lasso better then you.</b><br>
<p><br>
<p><br>
<i>The Cheneys gave away $7,800,000 to charity and paid $14,295,058 in taxes. I'm glad someone with the ability to<br>
earn and manage that kind of money ended up in the executive branch. </i><br>
<p><br>
<b>So, how did he make all that money?</b> <br>
<p><br>
<i>Is it bad for a politician to have actual experience earning money and creating jobs and working in the private sector, </i><br>
<p><br>
<b>NO, but let's examine ChEney as much as we "examined" the Clintons</b><br>
<p><br>
<i>as opposed to living off of the public dole for his entire life and defining compassion as 'forcibly taking income from one person who earned it and giving<br>
it to another'</i><br>
<p><br>
<b> You ought to consider taking a "summer vacation" to a third world or communist country and broadening your definition of "forcibly taking" and "compassion".</b><br>
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<i>Oh and just to remind you..you.. you<br>
Joniferous-MidMammalWoman - BUSH won the<br>
election! hehehe</i><br>
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<b>Okay Jeffercybercarnivoroceros, but remember "how" he won the election as well!</b><br>
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<b> HEHE!</b><br>
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<b>HAPPY EASTER!</i><br>
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[jefflucas]

On 4/14/01 9:36:29 AM, Jonina Dourif wrote:<br>
<br>
>You ought to consider taking a "summer<br>
>vacation" to a third world or communist<br>
>country and broadening your definition<br>
>of "forcibly taking" and "compassion".<br>
<br>
<b>Okay. I'll try to visit California some time to experience it firsthand.<br>
<br>
Jeff</b><br>
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[dane]

See what did I tell you. OK Jeff, you're up <br>
to bat.<br>

[jefflucas]

On 4/14/01 10:33:48 AM, Dane Spotts wrote:<br>
>See what did I tell you. OK<br>
>Jeff, you're up<br>
>to bat.<br>
><br>
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[Corvettegirl]

On 4/13/01 9:13:40 PM, Jeff Lucas wrote:<br>
can't you fathom that someone who (god forbid) doesn't live in Beverly Hills<br>
(*a "cowboy"*) is able to earn that kind<br>
of money? ;-)<br>
<br>
On 4/14/01 09:36 AM, Joni Dourif wrote:<br>
No need to feel inferior just because you live in Texas and I bet I can ride and <br>
lasso better then you.<br>
<br>
<br>
Corvettegirl cheers and takes bets from all the TRV'ers on the sidelines, while Jeff rides and Joni trys to lasso him. Hee ha!<br>

[Pele]

<i>On 4/14/01 12:11:27 PM, Corvette Girl wrote:<br><br>
Corvettegirl cheers and takes bets from all the TRV'ers on the sidelines, while Jeff rides and Joni trys to lasso him. Hee ha!</i><br>
<p><br>
<b>HEHEHE!<br>
<p><br>
I'm ridin' and lassuen' CG!
<p>
I still want to know how chEney MADE ALL that MONEY last year!!</b><br>

[kholmar]

I wanna know if I can use his method without going to jail.<br>
<br>
Joni Joni Joni, both sides cheated their asses off, they always do.<br>
The difference is that Billy Boy hired a second generation amatuer 'election thrower' and Daddy Bush got the services of the CIA 'gratis'.<br>
I cant prove any of that on the Bush side but....DUH.<br>
<br>
Which group do you think is more experienced at throwing elections?<br>
<br>
beely bowie<br>

[rbalkenhol]

Joni,<br>
<br>
Why is it most people never ask the obvious<br>
question when they see someone making more<br>
money than themselves? (Actually there are<br>
several obvious questions.) Rather, most<br>
people instantly demand to know what <br>
dirty, illegal thing the person might<br>
have done to get the money.<br>
<br>
Even though most of us want more money,<br>
most of us regard anyone with money as<br>
tainted. I believe that limits our own<br>
ability to acquire more money and hold<br>
on to it.<br>
<br>
The obvious question is, "Mr. Cheney, can<br>
you teach me how to make as much money as you?"<br>
<br>
(I realize I am way off the direction you wanted to go/went, but I think it's an<br>
important point to make.)<br>
<br>
-Bob<br>

[Sheryll]

On 4/14/01 2:25:24 PM, Jonina Dourif wrote:<br>
>On 4/14/01 12:11:27 PM, Corvette Girl<br>
>wrote:<br>
>Corvettegirl cheers and takes bets from<br>
>all the TRV'ers on the sidelines, while<br>
>Jeff rides and Joni trys to lasso him.<br>
>Hee ha!<br>
><br>
>HEHEHE!<br>
><br>
>I'm ridin' and lassuen' CG!<br>
><br>
>I still want to know how chEney MADE ALL<br>
>that MONEY last year!!<br>
><br>
A large chunk of it was the cashing in of stock options, which he had to sell to avoid conflict of interest laws. Why don't we discuss Hillaries futures profits/payoffs. <br>
<br>
Sheryl<br>
<br>

[jefflucas]

<b><font size="4">Dancing Is Outlawed in Va. Town </b></font><br><br>



<font size="1"> By Chris Kahn<br>

Associated Press Writer<br>

Sunday, April 15, 2001; <br>3:54 p.m. EDT</font><br><br>



POUND, Va. –– It's Saturday night and Helen Bolling is shimmying in a

corner booth at the Golden Pine restaurant. A usually quiet, sparrow of a

woman, the 65-year-old cups her hands and screams over the

loudspeakers for the disc jockey to play "Cotton-Eyed Joe."

<p>

"I love fast dances," says Bolling, who clomps her feet on the floor to the

music.

<p>

This is an especially daring act in Pound, a conservative town of about

1,000 people in the Appalachian coal mining country of Virginia's extreme

western corner.

<p>

Public dancing is illegal without a permit and the Golden Pine doesn't have

one. Owner Bill Elam, who got a judge to throw out an old anti-dance

ordinance as unconstitutionally broad, refuses to apply for one.

<p>

After his court victory, the Town Council enacted a new ordinance just

last year, writing it to pass constitutional muster. The maximum penalty is a

$500 fine.

<p>

The new law is applauded by local church leaders, some of whom

consider dancing a sin.



"I can never see a time when dancing can be approved of, especially with

people who are not married," said Tim Shepherd, an evangelist for the

Church of Christ in Pound. "Dancing is one of those things that entices. It

imitates sexual contact."

<p>

There are communities with similar bans elsewhere in Virginia and

elsewhere, but unlike Pound's new ordinance they're often in antiquated

sections of legal code that have been ignored for decades, said Kent

Willis, director of the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties

Union.

<p>

"I've never heard of a town actually trying to enforce something like this,"

Willis said.



So far, no one has been ticketed for dancing, but town officials have been

discussing what to do about the Golden Pine.

<p>

"We're planning something, but I can't go into detail right now," said Police

Chief Jeff Rose. Elam probably will get a court summons, said town

attorney Gary Gilliam.

<p>

Elam, 48, has been a thorn in the town's side ever since he bought the

Golden Pine in 1996. "I won't be run off," he says.

<p>

His old building is shabby and its electrical system shorts out from time to

time, but it's a perfect place for a night club, Elam said. It's close to a dry

county in Kentucky and the only competition is the Holiday Inn 20 miles

away in Norton.

<p>

"I knew I could make a killing here," Elam said.

<p>

But when he arrived, an 18-year-old ordinance denied dance permits "to

anyone who is not a proper person, nor to a person who is not a person

of good moral character."

<p>

After he got the law struck down in federal court, Elam hung a disco ball

from the ceiling, tore down a wall and laid tiles for a proper dance floor.

<p>

In spite of the new ordinance, enacted in February 2000, hundreds of

people gather on Saturday nights to boogie at the Golden Pine.

<p>

As disc jockey David "Chic'nman" Gent starts the music, girls smoking

cigarettes head to the dance floor. Carl Addington pulls up in a red

Corvette wearing a leather vest and jeans. Curtis Caldwell comes in from

the pool tables and talks to a pretty blonde woman in a red top.

<p>

"This is just like a dream," Elam says as he watches.

<p>

In her corner booth, Helen Bolling has been waiting for the music.

<p>

Until a few months ago, Bolling had never danced, not even at her

wedding. But after her husband died of cancer last year, it was the only

thing that made her feel better.<p>



"She would just sit by the window and cry to herself 24-seven," said

Rhonda McHugh, the youngest of Bolling's 12 children. "So I said,

'Mama, let's go to Pines.'"

<p>

By 9:30 p.m., the place is packed with coal miners and old timers and

college kids, all dancing in a swarm of cowboy boots and tie-died shirts.

<p>

When Gent finally plays the country dance tune "Cotton-Eyed Joe,"

Bolling gets up and stomps her pumps on the floor. She joins her

daughter, then some younger women step in and soon there is no more

space on the floor.

<p>

"I think it's good for people to dance," Bolling says, smiling like a

teen-ager. "I'm not too good, but it makes me feel a whole lot better."

<p>

© Copyright 2001 The Associated Press

[ex-animo]

Do some of the Bushites want to explain how this cowboy made all that money???? <br>
<br>
I suppose the same way you got yours, he earned it.<br>
<br>
<br>
Gene<br>