missles smuggled into us

snow · #1 05-18-2002, 10:26 AM

<title>small pox vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
<a target=_new href="http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk/vac2f.htm">http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk/vac2f.htm</a>

snow · #2 05-18-2002, 10:41 AM

<title>small pox vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
<a target=_new href="http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk/vac2f.htm">http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk/vac2f.htm</a> 
 
in this article they say that ""It's not a totally benign vaccine," he said. "Nobody under 30 has received it and no recently trained healthcare providers have ever administered it." 
 
something to consider when researching this issue

Sheryll · #3 05-20-2002, 03:55 AM

<title>small pox vaccines Sheryl Lynn Sheryll sheryll@pobox.alaska.net</title>
On 5/18/02 10:41:00 AM, Kimberly Snow wrote: 
>http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk 
>/vac2f.htm 
> 
>in this article they say that 
>""It's not a totally benign 
>vaccine," he said. "Nobody 
>under 30 has received it and 
>no recently trained healthcare 
>providers have ever 
>administered it." 
> 
>something to consider when 
>researching this issue 
 
No vaccine can be "benign" and create an immune reaction which, is the purpose of a vaccine. Maybe the reason no one under thirty has received and no recently trained health care providers have administered it is because it has not been given anywhere in the world for almost thirty years and in countries with no risk factors they stopped given it even before then. Basicly statements of fact which have no bearing on the safety of the vaccine but are intended to enflame the passions of the reader to assume that it is unsafe. Heck, I received it at least twice and never even received a scar. It may mean that I didn't develop and immunity or that my immune system was so efficient that it took care of the infection before it could create a sore that could fester and scar. I think the latter. I missed most of the childhood illness's. Only two that I am aware of having were chicken pox (6th grade) and mumps (sophomore). Messed up the spring ball. 
 
Sheryl

snow · #4 05-20-2002, 08:49 AM

<title>small pox vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
On 5/20/02 3:55:00 AM, Sheryl Lynn wrote: 
>On 5/18/02 10:41:00 AM, Kimberly Snow 
>wrote: 
>>http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk 
>>/vac2f.htm 
>> 
>>in this article they say that 
>>""It's not a totally benign 
>>vaccine," he said. "Nobody 
>>under 30 has received it and 
>>no recently trained healthcare 
>>providers have ever 
>>administered it." 
>> 
>>something to consider when 
>>researching this issue 
> 
>No vaccine can be "benign" and create an 
>immune reaction which, is the purpose of 
>a vaccine. Maybe the reason no one 
>under thirty has received and no 
>recently trained health care providers 
>have administered it is because it has 
>not been given anywhere in the world for 
>almost thirty years and in countries 
>with no risk factors they stopped given 
>it even before then. Basicly statements 
>of fact which have no bearing on the 
>safety of the vaccine but are intended 
>to enflame the passions of the reader to 
>assume that it is unsafe. Heck, I 
>received it at least twice and never 
>even received a scar. It may mean that 
>I didn't develop and immunity or that my 
>immune system was so efficient that it 
>took care of the infection before it 
>could create a sore that could fester 
>and scar. I think the latter. I missed 
>most of the childhood illness's. Only 
>two that I am aware of having were 
>chicken pox (6th grade) and mumps 
>(sophomore). Messed up the spring ball. 
> 
>Sheryl 
 
I'm assuming you were vaccinated for the mumps in your mmr series?

johnm · #5 05-20-2002, 04:58 PM

<title>small pox vaccines John M johnm n9vbt@hotmail.com</title>
Actually, I was on World Wide Mobility in the Vietnam Era (OK Now you can figure out how OLD I am). During that time we were vaccinated every 6 months for EVERYTHING. The single exception being the Bubonic Plague. That you got once. Considering how bad it was, I can imagine what the plague was like. 
 
I received so much smallpox vaccine, the common cowpox, that, like most of the others, I would show no reaction. Ditto for Typhus / Paratyphoid Fever, ditto for Cholera. The only one that continued to hurt for a week afterward was the Pneumonia (Pneumo-Max). It still does. I get one every 10 years now (it keeps my ears from infecting, and my S.O. is asplenic) 
 
Paradoxical abreactions to Mumps, DPT, and the like occur immediately, like penicillin, so if there is a question, I'd ask for a scratch reaction test like they do for Rabies. This from one who is allergic to horses (and Tetanus Anti-toxin). 
 
John M. 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
Reality is fractal. It has a pattern with no discernable pattern. The finer you divide it, the more it remains the same.

Sheryll · #6 05-21-2002, 06:07 AM

<title>small pox vaccines Sheryl Lynn Sheryll sheryll@pobox.alaska.net</title>
On 5/20/02 8:49:00 AM, Kimberly Snow wrote: 
>> 
>I'm assuming you were vaccinated for the 
>mumps in your mmr series? 
> 
I'm sorry, I wasn't. Back in the old days they did not have a vaccine for mumps, polio, or chicken pox (or if they did, didn't consider it necessary.) I was in grade school when the polio vaccine came out (dated myself there didn't I?). Before that they gave news reports on the number of new cases of polio, much like the reports on traffic deaths. As I recall the numbers were very close to being the same. Small state of Idaho having 200 to 300 plus cases of polio a year. Salk stopped that. They did have a rash of polio cases after the vaccine came out. They had a bad batch of weakened virus vaccine that the virus wasn't weak enough, but they fixed that and polio is almost non-existent in most of the world. 
 
Sheryl 
 
ps Salk did put the iron lung companies out of business.

snow · #7 05-31-2002, 09:04 AM

<title>missles smuggled into us Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
<a target=_new href="http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020531-888741.htm">http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020531-888741.htm</a>

snow · #8 06-05-2002, 08:38 AM

<title>polio vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
 
This one's for you Sheryl, I haven't seen that therapist yet about my vaccine phobia, so I thought I'd post another. By the way, are you one of those who had the monkey puss stuck in them at a young age? 
 
<a target=_new href="http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/1/monkey_virus.htm">http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/1/monkey_virus.htm</a>

snow · #9 06-05-2002, 08:50 AM

<title>vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
Here's another one, because I'm feeling particularly perky today: 
 
<a target=_new href="http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/1/booster_shots.htm">http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/1/booster_shots.htm</a>

Angele · #10 10-09-2002, 12:47 PM

<title>vaccines jocelyne Slough Angele jonslough@tln.net</title>
I just read an interesting article in Maclean's magazine, October 7, 2002 issue., page 50, "To vaccinate or not". The article discusses autism, ADHD, neurological problems and deaths related to vaccines. The article pointed the finger of blame at Thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in vaccines to prevent fungal and bacterial growth in multi-dose vials. In Canada, you can now get infant inoculations that are free of this substance. But what about adults? As for the U.S., I have no idea what the vaccines are made of. But it seems to me that only a nut would have put mercury, the most toxic natural element in the world, into vaccines to begin with. Especially for babies!

Caradoc · #11 02-15-2003, 01:45 AM

When I was assigned to Saudi Arabia (85 through 87), wife and I and two older daughters all had smallpox shot. No shot for 9-month old daughter. My arm was sore for a week but others got over it in 3 or 4 days.

Sheryll · #12 02-16-2003, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snow
<title>small pox vaccines Kimberly Snow snow ksnow@psitech.net</title>
On 5/20/02 3:55:00 AM, Sheryl Lynn wrote: 
>On 5/18/02 10:41:00 AM, Kimberly Snow 
>wrote: 
>>http://www.alanlam.demon.co.uk 
>>/vac2f.htm 
>> 
>>in this article they say that 
>>""It's not a totally benign 
>>vaccine," he said. "Nobody 
>>under 30 has received it and 
>>no recently trained healthcare 
>>providers have ever 
>>administered it." 
>> 
>>something to consider when 
>>researching this issue 
> 
>No vaccine can be "benign" and create an 
>immune reaction which, is the purpose of 
>a vaccine. Maybe the reason no one 
>under thirty has received and no 
>recently trained health care providers 
>have administered it is because it has 
>not been given anywhere in the world for 
>almost thirty years and in countries 
>with no risk factors they stopped given 
>it even before then. Basicly statements 
>of fact which have no bearing on the 
>safety of the vaccine but are intended 
>to enflame the passions of the reader to 
>assume that it is unsafe. Heck, I 
>received it at least twice and never 
>even received a scar. It may mean that 
>I didn't develop and immunity or that my 
>immune system was so efficient that it 
>took care of the infection before it 
>could create a sore that could fester 
>and scar. I think the latter. I missed 
>most of the childhood illness's. Only 
>two that I am aware of having were 
>chicken pox (6th grade) and mumps 
>(sophomore). Messed up the spring ball. 
> 
>Sheryl 
 
I'm assuming you were vaccinated for the mumps in your mmr series?

I just noticed the last line in this old, old joust between my self and Kimberly. The answer is, no. When I was a child, they did not vacinate against chicken pox or the mumps. They did not have a good vaccine for either of those at the time. Mumps are very resistant to vaccines. Sometimes people would get mumps on just one side and later in life get them on the other side. Medicine is far from an exact science. Now to discuss what brought me to be reviewing this thread (besides, trying to figure out this new board.).

Smallpox, 100,000 military vaccinated and media making a fuss over three (3) "severe" reactions. No deaths and all three are back to work. Two were new, first time, and one had been vaccinated in the old days. I supect that if you took that same 100,000 people and fed them peanuts or walnuts that more than three would have severe reactions and maybe even a death or two. Lets just all hope and pray that we never have to find out if they vaccine works.

Sheryl

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